CI083: Rehearse! Live and breathe your presentation with Rob Biesenbach


So, all these things I learned from acting: rehearsing, relentlessly planning, thinking of your audience, inhabiting the character, bringing energy to the room… Those are all critical.

~Rob Biesenbach

Quick! How do you introduce yourself (your business, your big idea, your creative project) to the world? 

Cue the impostor! If you’ve just broken into a cold sweat, I understand. This is one of those questions that can trigger even the most accomplished person, causing them to retreat behind ineffectual language and timid gestures.

Why is it difficult for some to claim their voice?

Probably because voice is more than just the noises we make. Voice is emotion and content; it’s the literal and the figurative.  Rob Biesenbach has worked voice from every angle. As an actor, a corporate trainer, a speaker, and an author, he’s crafted strategies that help people communicate and connect. 

I imagine some of you asking, “But Andrea, I’m a tax attorney (or a dog walker or a digital illustrator, or a…). What do I need to know about voice other than when to turn it up or how to dial it down?”

Well, that takes us back to the question up top…

Read on for more…


How do you feel about your own voice? 

Is it a tool that you feel like you have command over? Is it something that feels vulnerable? Do you enjoy speaking or presenting? Does it make you feel nervous? Do you never really think about your voice? It’s just a thing that comes out of you when you need to use it?

What questions do you have about voice? Would you like to learn about ways that you can become more comfortable or more skillful with using your voice?

Email me your thoughts, questions, fears, desires around voice: Andrea [at] thecreativeimposter.com. 

This can be written out in text or you can record a voice memo on your phone or fancy microphone and send me the recording I can play on the show.


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Atlanta, Georgia, October 11 through 13, 2019

I will be co-facilitating a workshop on how to use YOUR VOICE. I’d love to see you there — get your ticket.*

*This is an affiliate link, meaning when you buy your ticket, I’ll get a little thank you commission from the organizers. Thank you!

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You may never give a TedTalk (although I hope you do!) or be invited on a podcast (although I hope you are!).

At some point, however, everyone’s in the business of communication.

Whether you’re delivering your message to one customer or one thousand conventioneers, you’re the PR firm of your life and career. Having an answer you can rely on to the question of who you are and what you do keeps those cold sweats at bay. 

Rob’s approach to voice work is pragmatic. He advocates practice and preparedness. His exercises aren’t overly complicated. A few moments of physical assessment is usually all it takes to refocus our energy. And his rationale for self-evaluation is simple: when we know our strengths from our weaknesses, we can be unapologetic about both. 

That’s how you use your voice to introduce yourself (your business, your big idea, your creative project) to the world!*

*not-so-coincidentally, that’s also how you banish the impostor.

~Andrea

I think one of the most important things in our professional and personal development is getting to a place in your life where you know your strengths and you know your weaknesses so you’re not apologetic about either.

~Rob Biesenbach

Resources & Links

WHERE TO FIND ROB BIESENBACH

Website

LinkedIn

Twitter

YouTube

DISCUSSED IN THIS EPISODE:

The Second City

TedTalks

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CI082: Command your voice, find freedom with singer Davin Youngs


There is a vulnerability that comes with the voice because it is a natural expression… of who we are. The sound of my voice carries with it the story of my life.

~Davin Youngs

Honestly? I shouldn’t even write show notes for this one. I mean, this episode is about voice. How we use it. How we experience it. Where it comes from. 

How do you summarize it with words?

My friend Davin Youngs does a great job distilling voice down to its essence. He’s a singer, teacher, and sound guide with profound observations about human vocalization that reverberate in the body and in life. He’s made a career helping people overcome deeply-rooted fears that block them from living fully in their voice.

If you’ve guessed that there’s a lot more than music theory being taught in one of his workshops, you’re right.

Read on for more…


How do you feel about your own voice? 

Is it a tool that you feel like you have command over? Is it something that feels vulnerable? Do you enjoy speaking or presenting? Does it make you feel nervous? Do you never really think about your voice? It’s just a thing that comes out of you when you need to use it?

What questions do you have about voice? Would you like to learn about ways that you can become more comfortable or more skillful with using your voice?

Email me your thoughts, questions, fears, desires around voice: Andrea [at] thecreativeimposter.com. 

This can be written out in text or you can record a voice memo on your phone or fancy microphone and send me the recording I can play on the show.


Subscribe to The Creative Impostor (it’s free!)


3 Invitations for YOU

Join me for She Podcasts Live in October

Do you feel like you want to get some more podcasting insight tools resources information connections from the female perspective? She Podcasts Live is the conference for you!

Atlanta, Georgia, October 11 through 13, 2019

I will be co-facilitating a workshop on how to use YOUR VOICE. I’d love to see you there — get your ticket.*

*This is an affiliate link, meaning when you buy your ticket, I’ll get a little thank you commission from the organizers. Thank you!

Get access to my secret podcast Craft & Culture BTS with Podcast Envy

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Creative Happy Hour in Chicago: Storytelling

Event details here inside The Creative Impostor: Chicago Women’s Collective meetup. Add your name to the waitlist and then message me andrea [at] thecreativeimpostor.com and let me know you heard about it on the show!


Article Continued

There’s no conversation with Davin about the magic of voice without discussing life, vulnerability, and transformation. It’s no coincidence that voice is produced in the throat, one of the most exposed and sensitive areas of the body, and that finding one’s voice can feel risky. 

But when we allow ourselves the simple pleasure of vocalizing — chanting, humming, singing, or speaking — we invite positive physiological changes to occur.

That’s been Davin’s experience as a singer. He’s also seen it happen in his private practice and as a participant in one of Bobby McFerrin’s Circlesong workshops at Omega Institute in upstate New York. I’ve also seen those physiological changes take place as well in the Bhakti Vinyasa yoga classes I lead at Sat Nam Yoga in Chicago.

Too much woo-woo for you?

Don’t fear the woo! 

Yes, Davin and I are seriously comfortable with energy work. But he’s got years of solid musical study and functional application to support his POV.

So, when he says that our voices are the greatest tool we have for broadcasting our authenticity* to the world, I nod wildly in agreement. And not just because I’m a podcaster. Published reports show voice-based assessments of trustworthiness repeatedly outscoring visual tests in side-by-side evaluations. 

*Authenticity. I know! The word gets thrown around. A lot.

I love that Davin defines authenticity by example, charting his growth from closeted queer kid with the booming baritone (his words) to present-day voice teacher and coach. His view of authenticity holds space for multiple personas rather than constantly searching for a singular, elusive part of himself. 

And whether it’s learning to use your voice or uncovering your authentic selves, Davin’s all about committing to the practice because that’s where the magic happens. 

We become stronger when we’re heard and we become more compassionate when we listen.

My advice to you? Listen in… then burst into spontaneous sound!

Andrea


Resources & Links

FEATURING

Davin Youngs

Connect with Davin on Instagram @davinyoungs.

MENTIONED

Western Michigan University School of Music

Chautauqua Summer Institution

Somatic Voice Workshop

Bobby McFerrin’s Circlesong Workshop at Omega Institute

Sat Nam Yoga Chicago

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PE048: Craft & Culture Sneak Peek and Podcast Movement Insights


We must create content that matters so much to the people who are listening that they will pay for what they can get for free.

Laura Walker, former CEO WNYC Studios @ Podcast Movement

The morning after Podcast Movement 2019 in Orlando, Florida, I had an idea for what I hope will be an ongoing wonderful series of behind-the-scenes podcasts specifically for VIP Circle members — a little more unpolished, a little bit more raw — which makes me so nervous to say that because I really pride myself on having very professional sounding, very polished episodes.

So I recorded, sitting on the balcony outside of my Airbnb room, all of my deepest insights and some questions that came up for me about the craft and culture of podcasting. So this is a preview of episode 001 of what I am calling Craft & Culture BTS with Podcast Envy, exclusively for my Patreon supporters of $5 (or more) per month.

On episode 47 of Podcast Envy, my advice for how to win at podcast conferences was to choose one thing to focus on — one specific intention that you really want to carry with you throughout the conference so that you don’t get overwhelmed with all of the things because you can’t possibly go to everything. You can’t possibly do everything and you have to budget your resources — time, money, and energy. 

But this year I was having a difficult time figuring out my focus area. 

So I arrived at podcast movement 2019 without a plan.

At a certain point, I decided that I was going to use the conference as my oracle — like using the conference as a tarot card deck and asking the conference some questions.  

Where do I need to be?

What is my next step? 

And what resources are available to support me in this?

Those were my three questions that I held in my mind and then everyday I would just show up.  

And no this isn’t just about me. This is also about you because I think that there are some takeaways here for you as a podcaster who wants to make an impact in whatever area or community or niche you find yourself.

Read on for more…

Subscribe to Podcast Envy (it’s free!)

Craft & Culture BTS with Podcast Envy + VIP Circle

Let’s make podcasts that matter together! 

I’ve been teasing it FOREVER. Now there is a way for us to connect 1×1 AND for you to become part of an intimate community of podcasting colleagues who all want to make an impact, shift culture and all the while, reap the deep rewards of podcasting (no, I’m not necessarily talking sponsors…) for ourselves.

This is a community we will create TOGETHER. And because of this, the first 5 members to join will receive the Founding Member rate of $29/month.

I will NEVER offer this rate again and it will be yours for as long as you are current.

To request to become a Founding Member, pop over here to apply.

Podcast Angel: She Podcasts Live!

No matter where you are in your podcasting journey, community — like real flesh and blood community — is vital to your survival and success! And it’s not easy to come by. This conference will be a catalyst for you for that. Learn more about the event here.*

I’m co-facilitating a Voice Training workshop Friday afternoon.

**This is an affiliate link so if you end up purchasing a ticket, I will get a lovely commission from the lovely ladies of She Podcasts. Thank you!!! 

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What do you want your audience to do as a result of listening to your podcast? What is their next step? And how do you support them in taking that next step?

Andrea Klunder

A few insights

Robyn Sayles did a topic on mentoring, especially mentoring for women and putting the idea out there that women have so few visible mentors available to them even in the world of Hollywood. First of all, she’s an amazing speaker and presenter but there’s something about her talk sticking in my mind that has to do with mentoring for women as relates to podcasting. 

Laura Walker, founding president and CEO of New York Public Radio who recently left for an amazing academic position at Yale, said that as content creators who are looking to both create value for our audiences and also be able to ask for value back from our audiences, whether that be monetary value whether that be support and engagement, we must create content that matters so much to the people who are listening that they will pay for what they can get for free.

During the opening keynotes, there was a presentation from Edison Research about the divergence between veteran podcast listeners and rookie podcast listeners. New people who are picking up podcasting as something to consume are very different and have different motivations and behaviors than people who’ve been listening to podcasts for ever (like me and maybe like you.)

In fact, the way that veteran podcast listeners and rookie podcast listeners define what a podcast is is not the same.

The question that they posed was: How can we put our content in the way of new listeners so that they can more easily discover it?

Finally, I went to a panel on how podcasts create a win-win for organizations and listeners. I knew I was in the right place because I saw all of these people that are somehow connected to my show and I got an invitation to a meetup for podcasters in higher education. 

Meetups are a key part of the podcast conference experience. Whether it’s a meetup that’s posted on the app or on the schedule or one that you stumble across, they can be a great way to meet people in a more intimate context and have some good conversations in a structured environment. So I did attend that higher ed podcaster meetup and also the Just Busters female editors’ group.

The final thought that I want to leave you with is in looking at your show and how you move forward, I want you to think about your audience. 

What do you want your audience to do as a result of listening to your podcast?

What is their next step? And how do you support them in taking that next step? 

And in order to answer that, we also have to answer…

Who is our audience and if we don’t know, how do we find out? 

And then finally I want us to think about how is that we are going to grow our audience and our overall audience for podcasting? 

How are we going to be creative about the ways in which we’re communicating and engaging with our audience?

Because we want engagement back from them, but first we have to engage with them and I don’t have all the answers yet, but as soon as I do, I’ll let you know. 

And as soon as you do, I would love for you to let me know. 

Here’s what I want YOU to do:

Join me over on my Patreon page for Craft & Culture BTS with Podcast Envy.

You will get the other half of my insights that I did NOT include here on Podcast Envy. You will get direct access to me to ask your deepest podcast questions to answer on our exclusive Craft & Culture podcast feed. And if you want to upgrade to VIP, you’ll even get face time with me over live video. Let’s make podcasts that matter… together!

Resources, Podcasts & Episodes Mentioned

Craft & Culture BTS Exclusive Podcast

Podcast Movement

She Podcasts Live

PodMov Daily Newsletter

Episode 047 Podcast Envy: How to win at Podcast Conferences

Robyn Sayles – Launch Your Success

Edison Research

The Brookings Cafeteria

Democracy Works

Sidedoor

Big World

After the Fact

Podcast Brunch Club

Rural Health Voice

rePROS Fight Back

Just Busters Facebook Group for female podcast editors

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CI081: All about your voice (feedback please!)


One of the things that I hear from clients and potential clients and podcasting community members is that a lot of people really don’t like the sound of their own voice.

~Andrea Klunder

Lately I’ve honestly been feeling a little bit apathetic. I’ve had a hard time connecting with things that I love, things that inspire me, things that energize me, things that bring me joy.

And so I am genuinely happy (finally) to be exploring this series with you and I’m curious:

How do you feel about your own voice? 

Is it a tool that you feel like you have command over? Is it something that feels vulnerable?

Do you enjoy speaking or presenting? Does it make you feel nervous? 

Do you never really think about your voice? It’s just a thing that comes out of you when you need to use it?

What questions do you have about voice? 

Would you like to learn about ways that you can become more comfortable or more skillful with using your voice?

Email me your thoughts, questions, fears, desires around voice: Andrea [at] thecreativeimposter.com. 

This can be written out in text or you can record a voice memo on your phone or fancy microphone and send me the recording I can play on the show.

One of the things that I hear from clients and potential clients and podcasting community members is that a lot of people really don’t like the sound of their own voice, or they don’t feel confident using their voice, or they worry that their voice just isn’t compelling enough.

Why are we in a position where so many people feel vulnerable and uncomfortable with using one of the most powerful tools that you have for connection, for influence, for sharing experiences, and for making an impact?

Read on for more…

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Two Invitations for YOU

Join me for She Podcasts Live in October

Do you feel like you want to get some more podcasting insight tools resources information connections from the female perspective?

She Podcasts Live is the conference for you!

Atlanta, Georgia, October 11 through 13 2019

I will be co-facilitating a workshop on how to use YOUR VOICE.

I’d love to see you there — get your ticket.*

*This is an affiliate link, meaning when you buy your ticket, I’ll get a little thank you commission from the organizers. Thank you!

Get access to my secret podcast Craft & Culture BTS with Podcast Envy

Are you podcasting? (I know SOME of this community is doing it!)

Get access to my secret podcast “Craft & Culture BTS with Podcast Envy”

Become part of an intimate community of podcasting colleagues who all want to make an impact, shift culture and all the while, reap the deep rewards of podcasting of ourselves.

Article Continued

This year has been a doozy of a year and I don’t use that word lightly.

If you are tired of hearing about medical things and surgeries and whatnot, don’t worry. This episode isn’t about that. But this episode is coming from all of the reorganization that is happening in my mind space that has been triggered by this entire experience. 

One of the things that I have started doing that I have never done before during this recovery is working with a psychotherapist.

Her name is Miriam. She’s fantastic  and finally in session number 7, we started to address the thing that is way down deep. All of the surface level frustrations and problems and issues that I’ve been dealing with and talking about and working through and that fundamental thing that is underneath.

All of this is a fear of running out of time.  

A fear of not making the most of the time that I have. 

What does that mean? Yeah — fear of death. 

I remember reading that every fear you can think of, every fear imaginable under the sun — if you boil it down to the root of that fear, it all comes down to this fear of death. 

And I know for sure in this society that we live in, we try to pretend like it isn’t a thing, or like it’s a thing that happens to other people, or it’s a thing that happens in the wake of a tragedy, but we don’t really address the fact effectively that it is a thing that happens to everyone all the time every day and no one is ever prepared for it.

Recently one of my clients Robyn Conley Downs on her podcast Feel Good Effect had a guest on named Bronnie Ware, best known for writing this book quite some time ago called The Five Regrets of the Dying

I was editing Robyn’s episode, listening to Bronnie speak right after having this therapy session with Miriam where we were talking about the fact that most people at age 40 haven’t yet confronted the fact that you are not guaranteed another 40 years of life.

What does that mean for how you live? For how you structure things? 

One of the things that Bronnie said was that when she was working in palliative care for people who were dying, it didn’t matter whether they were in their 40s or whether they were in their 90’s. Most were surprised to find themselves here at the end of life with not much time left.

And so I was thinking what would it take? No matter what age, no matter how soon or how far away, for me to be able to say, “Wow. What an awesome life. Wow. I really feel that this was all worthwhile. I really am content — happy with the life that I’ve had!”

That I wouldn’t be sitting there feeling like I had missed something. 

I don’t know the answers to this. I don’t know if I’ll ever know, but one thing became really clear and that is that in my work, probably the most important thing is that it all centers around the voice. 

This should not be a huge light bulb moment.

I grew up singing. I remember my first solo being at age 4 when I sang Tomorrow from the musical Annie at the mother-daughter banquet at my church.  

I remember as a child making a fake radio show and recording it on an audio cassette that probably no one heard, but me.

I remember being in theater and being in choir and being in musicals and being in plays.  

I remember going to college to study vocal music performance and music education and then hating it and having a quarter life crisis  at the young age of 18, trying to figure out what the heck I do with my life if I’m not going to be a voice major. 

I remember learning how to do behind the scenes media production including skills for scripting and writing. 

I remember moving to Chicago and starting out in the ticket office at the Lyric Opera of Chicago and then working behind the scenes in production and Tech feeling like I didn’t have a creative voice even though I was around all of these creative people.

I remember getting back into acting and performing and then learning how to use my voice as a yoga and meditation teacher.

And then circling all the way back to media production and using my own voice to make podcasts. 

And now here I am producing editing coaching and consulting for other podcasters and pod-dreamers. 

And now in October of 2019, I will be co-facilitating a panel workshop on how to fall in love with your voice as a podcaster at She Podcasts Live in Atlanta, Georgia.

So yes, no matter what format it takes on, it’s all about the voice. 

And so we are embarking together on a journey — exploring the different aspects of voice, why it is so important to us, how it can be one of the most powerful tools that we have available to us no matter what kind of work we’re doing or art we are creating or connections we are making.

I think that it is the beginning of me really finding my creative purpose in a clear and useful way.

Remember to send me an MP3 file or email to share a little bit about your relationship with your voice and what challenges or questions you have on this topic. Maybe together we’ll find some clarity, some solutions, and have a little fun in the process.

Wishing you  the courage to let your voice shine,

Andrea


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PE047: How to win at podcast conferences


Making pod-friends is super important because as you may or may not yet know, podcasting can sometimes start to feel like this very solitary thing. It’s not like performing on stage where you have an immediate feedback loop, an immediate direct interaction with your audience. It is something that likely you are doing in a room by yourself.

Andrea Klunder

If you are listening to this very close to the time that it is released, I’m at Podcast Movement in Orlando, Florida . Are you here? Have we met yet? 

Either way, I am here to teach you how to WIN at podcast conferences.  

You didn’t know that this was a game, did you? 

The reason I wanted to share this with you is because I hear and see so often in the podcasting  community a couple of themes:

  1. People are nervous about attending. Podcasters are notoriously often introverted and the idea of talking to strangers in person like face to face instead of over the interwebs audio-only is nerve-racking.
  2. People are overwhelmed. Especially with a conference like Podcast Movement where I think there’s like seven or eight sessions at any given time and, to make matters even worse, you have to decide whether you’re going to go to a session at all because sometimes you can get information overload, because sometimes things are more fun in the hallways outside of the breakout rooms and in the expo area, and because sometimes you just need to eat or rest or record a podcast…

So what’s the #1 secret for navigating all of this?

Read on for more…

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Podcast Angel: She Podcasts Live!

No matter where you are in your podcasting journey, community — like real flesh and blood community — is vital to your survival and success! And it’s not easy to come by. This conference will be a catalyst for you for that. Learn more about the event here.*

I’m co-facilitating a Voice Training workshop Friday afternoon.

**This is an affiliate link so if you end up purchasing a ticket, I will get a lovely commission from the lovely ladies of She Podcasts. Thank you!!! 

Podcast Angel: Podcast Envy VIP Circle

Let’s do this podcasting thing together! 
Apply now to the Podcast Envy VIP Circle with me.

I’ve been teasing it FOREVER. Now there is a way for us to connect 1×1 AND for you to become part of an intimate community of podcasting colleagues who all want to make an impact, shift culture and all the while, reap the deep rewards of podcasting (no, I’m not necessarily talking sponsors…) for ourselves.

This is a community we will create TOGETHER. And because of this, the first 5 members to join will receive the Founding Member rate of $29/month.

I will NEVER offer this rate again and it will be yours for as long as you are current.

To request to become a Founding Member, pop over here to apply.

I’ve got 20 questions for you and if I think the membership is right for you, I’ll send an invitation to join.

Yes, but, Andrea, what EXACTLY will we be doing?

I don’t know!

Okay… well I do have a pretty good idea but the truth is I don’t want to create something you don’t need just because I think it’s a good idea.

I also want us to be conscientious and intentional with our digital media, our attention, and our time together. And I have some ideas I think are pretty great!

Curious? Apply right now!

Article Cont’d


Talk to strangers. Don’t worry about your strategy. Just have a good time.

Andrea Klunder

Let me tell you a little bit about my experience as a fledgling podcaster the first year that I attended podcast movement four years ago. It happened to be in Chicago because it moves around every year and I am in Chicago. So I thought I should probably go to this thing, but I didn’t really know why.

The truth is in that first year, I was one of those nervous people. 

I didn’t really know many or any other podcasters. I felt like an imposter going to a conference. I mean, I wasn’t making any money as a podcaster. I was completely self-taught. I didn’t think of myself as a professional and I wasn’t even sure I was doing any of it right!

(Small note I did happen to have two other Chicago-based friends who were going to the conference, one who was already podcasting and one who was thinking about starting a podcast and we did hang out together. But none of us knew what we were doing.) 

So I made an executive decision.

I dove headfirst into attending as many sessions as I could. I decided I was there to learn. All the things. 

I tried to get there as early as possible every morning and I was certainly too exhausted to attend any parties, dinners, networking events, etc by the end of the day, and this was fine by me because all those situations give me anxiety.

That year I did learn a whole bunch of cool things and came away with so many ideas about my show and about how to grow my little baby podcasting business. Also one thing that I did push myself to do that I am so grateful for is that they had these pre-conference sessions for speakers who did not have official breakout sessions to come up and give  10 minute talks The person who was emceeing was Matt Marr, also a podcaster who I love and who has been on The Creative Impostor and whose show, Dear Mattie, I have been on.

Matt was inviting people in the audience to come up and introduce themselves and their show in 30 seconds. And even that makes me nervous! You would think that as a speaker, as a podcaster, as someone with acting training, that it would not, but it does.

Anyway, I did it and people were really interested in my topic and I got invited to be on a couple of other shows, specifically Mindfulness Mode with Bruce Langford and Overcoming Graduation with Brian Drury.

Year One ended up being fine, but I kept hearing about how great all of the parties were, (you know, those ones that I was too tired to attend) and how the magic happens in the hallways outside the session rooms. 

And so the next year in Anaheim, I decided to focus on the parties, on meeting people, on talking to strangers. And I knew that in order to do that, I had to shore up my energy and get some good sleep so I did not set an early alarm. I did not try to make the 8:00 a.m. sessions. I arrived when I arrived each day and I only went to a very select handful of sessions to keep my mind clear so that I had plenty of opportunities to randomly start conversations with people that year.

I met so many fascinating podcasters, scheduled new guests for my show, got booked on other people’s shows and started making what I call “pod-friends” in the industry.

Pod-friends are super important because (as you may or may not yet know) podcasting can sometimes start to feel like this very solitary thing. It’s not like performing on stage where you have an immediate feedback loop an immediate direct interaction with your audience. It is something that likely you are doing in a room by yourself.

Maybe you have another person there, or maybe you have another person connecting with you over the internet, but largely you are speaking out and not always getting a huge amount of feedback back no matter how many people you have listening.

Also, sometimes you have questions and maybe you can’t afford to hire a coach or consultant like me to get those questions answered, or maybe if you post it in a Facebook group for podcasters with thousands of members, you get all this conflicting sometimes not really that great advice back and you just feel more confused and overwhelmed. 

Having specific pod-friends who get what you’re going through, who have a certain level of expertise and passion in the industry can mean the difference between growing as a podcaster and pod-fading. We don’t want the the pod-fade. 

Since those first two Podcast Movements, I have attended both Podcast Movement and PodFest both as a speaker and as an attendee, and I have held several different intentions for each conference all with different results. In this way, I have always found it well worth my time/money/energy investment to attend these conferences 

The secret to winning at a podcast conference is not competition and it’s certainly not trying to do everything. 

The secret is to choose one thing. 

One? 

Yes, one — one thing to focus on, one intention to guide your decision making throughout the conference, and then align all of your choices and activities with that one focus.

Are you here primarily to learn? To find guests for your show? To be inspired? To have fun? To find potential clients for your podcasting business? To grow your listenership? To share your message as a speaker? Etc?

All of these (and more that I haven’t even listed) are great intentions for attending a podcasting conference! 

Now just by choosing one, it does not mean that you won’t get all of the other benefits too. It simply cuts down on the overwhelm, placates the part of your brain that may be susceptible to FOMO, and makes for a more effective, more rewarding, more enjoyable podcast conference experience.

A few more quick tips:

  1. Wear comfortable shoes.
  2. Dress in or bring layers because conferences are often in hotels and convention centers and you cannot predict the inside weather as relates to the outside weather.
  3. Bring snacks.
  4. Have a plan for recharging (your phone AND yourself.) It is important to take some time for yourself to rest and digest, whether that means going back to your room in the middle of the afternoon for a little bit, whether that means sleeping in in the morning and not rushing to get there first thing, whether that means just stopping into the coffee shop or cafe and having a lovely little beverage by yourself. Hint: if you don’t want to talk to anyone or engage with anyone, just put your headphones on. No one will question that a podcasting conference.
  5. Be curious. Ask questions. Talk to people you wouldn’t normally talk to. Hint: Look for people who are standing around (without headphones on) and don’t appear to be talking to anybody. 
  6. Follow-up. Oh, I hate conference follow-up. The best success I have had in following up with people is not through the business card. It is through making an immediate connection with them in the moment that they’re standing there face to face on a social media platform that makes sense for both of us. Another thing I like to do if the Wi-Fi is reliable at the conference is to immediately find an episode of their show and download it or subscribe to it so that I have all these new podcasts in my queue to listen to after the conference and on the way home. I just like to check out the show see what they’re doing and see if there is a connection, if there is a reason to invite them to be on my show, if there is a reason for me to see if I can be on their show, if there is a way that I can support them or connect them to someone else who may be a great fit for them.
  7. Have fun. Be prepared for the unexpected. Be open to things not going exactly the way that you plan them. Be open to serendipity. Say “yes!” to that random lunch invitation.

If you’re here at Podcast Movement 2019, I hope to meet you… or at She Podcasts Live in October 2019 and if not, then at a future podcasting conference where we all can win!

Resources & Episodes Mentioned

Podcast Envy VIP Circle

Podcast Movement

She Podcasts Live

My interview on The Dear Mattie Show

Matt Marr’s interview on The Creative Impostor

My interview (early on!) on Mindfulness Mode with Bruce Langford

My interview (early on!) on Overcoming Graduation with Brian Drury

 

Connect with me

  1. Send me an email with a voice memo or .mp3 and let me know what you’re most looking forward to at She Podcasts Live October 2019. 
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  3. Join my Facebook Community where we create social support for content creators with inspiring prompts, opportunities for you to share your work, and more.

My favorite hashtags #thecreativeimpostor #podcastenvy #podcastboss

Email or Voice (send me a question to answer on the show!)
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CI080: One thing at a time, or how to change your life without changing everything


I think it is a normal reaction to a major event in your life to want to make all of these changes at once and you know what? I think it is also impossible.

~Andrea Klunder

The wheel in the sky keeps on turning…

Though maybe sometimes more smoothly and freely than others. And in this case, it’s the “wheel of life.” More on that in a moment.

Recently it has come to my attention that I have been trying to change everything all at once.

The health crisis that I’ve experienced this year with surgery and recovery has set me on a trajectory where I am fully aware of all of the things in my life that I’m not 100% happy with — all of the things in my life that I wish were better and all of the things in my life that I have felt like I could always do some day in the future.

And I’m realizing that, well, I’ve heard it said many many times and I know it’s true: The future is not guaranteed. We are not promised tomorrow.

Read on for more…

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Atlanta, Georgia, October 11 through 13 2019

I will be co-facilitating a workshop on how to use YOUR VOICE.

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This is a community we will create TOGETHER. And because of this, the first 5 members to join will receive the Founding Member rate of $29/month.

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And so I want to make changes to my home environment and I want to improve my financial situation and I want to make changes to the way that I approach my career and work and I want to make changes to my romantic relationship with my partner and I want to make changes to the ways that I do or do not spend time with my family and I want to make changes to the amount of time that I spend with my friends and I want to give back more and I want to make changes to my podcasts and I want to travel more and I want to take better care of myself and become more consistent again with my yoga and meditation practice.

All of these things at once.

And I think it is a normal reaction to a major event in your life to want to make all of these changes at once and you know what? I think it is also impossible.

So recently I was reminded of this tool that I originally learned about from Katy Flatau. who has been on The Creative Impostor before talking about life & career coaching in episode 050.

This tool that I learned about from Katie is something that gets used in the coaching and personal development space and I honestly don’t even know where it came from. If YOU do, I’d love for you to clue me in send me an email Andrea [at] thecreativeimpostor.com or share it on Instagram and tag me @AndreaKlunder.

The Wheel of Life is a chart in the shape of a wheel… or a circle or a flower or anything else you can think of that could potentially be round.

It’s segmented into different sections or pieces or petals and each section has a category and that category is ONE aspect of your life which holds some kind of value and meaning for you. The wheel rolls best when all of those areas of your life are in sync with each other that you have a general level of satisfaction in all the areas. But if one of them is out of sync, meaning if you have a higher level of dissatisfaction with that area, it can cause the wheel to get a little wonky and not quite roll as smoothly.

And I think that obviously it is unusual that we are generally happy with everything in our lives. Right?

And so the way that you can use the Wheel of Life is to label those different sections with categories. The categories can vary depending on what’s important to you and how you want to prioritize them. In fact, the number of categories that you can have varies.

Typically I’ve seen it with eight different categories (and I find this insufficient.) They could include money and finances or career and work or volunteering and giving back or family or social or creativity or romance — there’s no right or wrong way to pick your categories. It’s just a matter of choosing them and figuring out how they all fit together to make one cohesive happy life package.

Then you look at each category and rank on a scale of 0 to 10, zero being at the center of the wheel and 10 being all the way to the outer rim, how satisfied you are with that area of your life.

Then you focus in on one — possibly two, but generally one area of the life that has the lowest satisfaction level and look at: How can I focus on improving my overall happiness and satisfaction with this area of my life?

This can be hard because sometimes it feels like you are now neglecting those other areas of your life.

And that is not the intention. The intention is just simply to shine a spotlight put some focus and put a little extra energy behind that which is bothering you and then when that starts to improve, hopefully, it starts to lift the overall satisfaction level in other areas of the wheel as, well rather than lifting that category up to the detriment of the other areas.

And sure you might have to allocate a little less time energy or resources to some of those other areas in order to shift it into this area because we are, after all, limited what resources are available to us. It is a fact of life. Although I suppose some people could argue that with me as well.

But then you start to focus on: What are the things that I can do? What are the things that I can control to improve my level of satisfaction with this specific area?

So it’s an interesting concept and it’s something that I wanted to revisit because of this desire for me to try to change everything all at once which is leaving me feeling ineffective exhausted overwhelmed and not really making any progress on what it is that I want to be improving.

We’re exploring this idea of The Wheel of Life on what I’m calling Mission Mondays in The Creative Impostor Group on Facebook.

It’s a place designed for social support for creative individuals — so I think you qualify! Please join us and every Monday there will be a post from our community manager, Terri called Mission Monday.

This post will have a Wheel of Life image above and I would love love love love love for you to share ONE area of your wheel that you are focused on for the week that you have a mission in that area.

And at least one thing you’re going to do that week is to improve your overall satisfaction in that one area.

By you focusing and sharing that focus with me, it’s going to help me focus. And I will be ever so grateful. Let’s do this together!


Connect with me!

  1. Send me an email and let me know what you love most about The Creative Impostor and what you’d like to hear more of. So no like formal survey or anything. Just email me. You can write it or record a voice memo on your phone and attach it to the email.
  2. Join The Creative Impostor Facebook Community and share on Mission Monday. We create social support for content creators with inspiring prompts, opportunities for you to share your work and more.

My favorite hashtags #thecreativeimpostor #creativewomen #podcastenvy

Email or Voice 
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Facebook Page @andreaklunder.creative
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PE046: Professional Podcast Editing with Carrie Caulfield Arick, Britany Felix, and Jennifer Longworth


My clients think I’m a wizard. I don’t think they know entirely what I do. They just know that I do it…. What I actually do is polish people’s podcasts interviews to save everybody time.

Carrie Caulfield Arick

Four podcast editors walk into a bar… Nah, that’s not what happened at all. We got together where you’d expect us to – on a podcast, of course! 

Wait! Before you go all “Meh. I’m not an editor so why should I listen?” on this episode, hear me out.

You will become a better client and a better podcaster after listening to Carrie Caulfield Arick of YaYa Podcasting, Jennifer Longworth of Bourbon Barrel Podcasting, and Podcasting For Coaches’ Britany Felix. There’s room for everyone at this podcast editors roundtable! 

My guests agree that it’s difficult to make family and friends – let alone clients – understand what an editor does. Other aspects of their work are more familiar: consulting, producing, networking, teaching… there’s more; my guests are busy! 

But it’s the role of editor that seems to mystify most.

People have no idea what we do to make someone’s raw audio file audience-ready.

In their minds, an editor either does nothing (grumble, grumble) or performs magic (thanks, but…there’s no fairy dust here). 

Maybe it’s because, as humans, we’ve been talking all our lives that people think, how hard can it be to record what we say and have it come out the other end sounding intelligent and natural?

If you’re not an editor, you’d be surprised.

Read on for more…

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I’m co-facilitating a Voice Training workshop Saturday afternoon from 2:30-3:15pm!!!

Jennifer Carrie Britany will be co-facilitating

The Empowered Female Podcaster: Owning Your Voice and Authority
Saturday from 11:00 am – 11:45 am

Carrie will be co-facilitating

Editing
Sunday from 2:00 pm – 2:45 pm

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This is a community we will create TOGETHER. And because of this, the first 5 members to join will receive the Founding Member rate of $29/month.

I will NEVER offer this rate again and it will be yours for as long as you are current.

To request to become a Founding Member, pop over here to apply.

I’ve got 20 questions for you and if I think the membership is right for you, I’ll send an invitation to join.

Yes, but, Andrea, what EXACTLY will we be doing?

I don’t know!

Okay… well I do have a pretty good idea but the truth is I don’t want to create something you don’t need just because I think it’s a good idea.

I also want us to be conscientious and intentional with our digital media, our attention, and our time together. And I have some ideas I think are pretty great!

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For me, I credit it with literally changing my life… I get to work from home every day which has been my dream. I don’t have to take any calls with clients or anything before noon, which is amazing. I get to just have the freedom that I always, always, always craved.

Britany Felix, on what she gets out of her podcasting business

Setting aside physical challenges (like a client’s substandard equipment or that crazy barking dog), there’s nothing natural about wearing headphones, speaking into a mic, and being fully conscious of the fact that you’re being recorded! 

Making a podcasts as listenable as our clients intended them to sound when they hit record takes time – and skill.

As women, the price we place on our expertise can sometimes make for uncomfortable conversations. But you won’t find my guests undercutting their services on platforms like Fiverr. Or just-ing their way through introductions, as in “I’m just a podcast editor.”

If you’ve struggled with that kind of deeply ingrained undervaluing, it’s time to quit cold turkey (or at least start noticing how often you just. Jennifer, Carrie, and Britany are inspiring role models (in addition to all the other hats they wear). 

I will never charge anyone that low again because it was such a drain on me and definitely not worth it.

Jennifer Longworth, on charging what you’re worth

You know where there’s a round-table, there’s a speed round! We talk about everything from pet-peeves to pricing philosophies to the gifts podcasting has given us.

Whether you’re an intrepid DIY podcaster, a turn-key client, or just a faithful listener, you’ll want to listen in as four editor ladies get together on a podcast.

Resources mentioned

Just Busters Facebook Group
*for female identified editors & those who edit their own shows

Podcast Editors Club Facebook Group
*for all

Jennifer’s mic-grabbing video from Podfest

Lexington Podcasters Facebook Group

Podcast Movement

She Podcasts Live

Izotope

Adobe Audition

Audacity

 

Connect with me

  1. Send me an email and let me know about a podcast you LOVE doing something interesting with their format beyond solos & interviews. So no like formal survey or anything. Just email me. You can write it or record a voice memo on your phone and attach it to the email.
  2. DM me on Insta or post a clip/show that you think is doing something creative with their format and tag me @andreaklunder
  3. Join my Facebook Community where we create social support for content creators with inspiring prompts, opportunities for you to share your work, and more.

My favorite hashtags #thecreativeimpostor #podcastenvy #podcastboss

Email or Voice (send me a question to answer on the show!)
Facebook Group The Creative Impostor
Facebook Page @andreaklunder.creative
Instagram: @andreaklunder

Oh HEY! I’m on LinkedIn… dropping pro podcasting tips, insights, and stories. Connect with me there and let me know you’re a Podcast Envy listener.

PE045: Interviews vs Solos – which podcast format should I choose?


Audio is a super flexible medium and I think that we have very much limited ourselves in the podcasting space by putting ourselves into two camps: solo hosted or co-hosted shows and interviews.

Andrea Klunder, Your Podcast Boss

I’m rebutting a rebuttal of an article that I had wanted to rebut from the Podcast Business Journal, which is a daily online resource that’s fairly new in the space and I think is trying to present controversial or conflicting points of views for the sake of discussion on social media, which seems to be working quite well because… here we are.

Should I have an interview show or a solo show?

Article 1: Stop The Interviews. Go Solo. by Robert Crandall

Article 2: Most Hosts Shouldn’t Go Solo by Richard Davies

My opinion???

Read on for more…

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No matter where you are in your podcasting journey, community — like real flesh and blood community — is vital to your survival and success! And it’s not easy to come by. This conference will be a catalyst for you for that. Learn more about the event here.*

I’m co-facilitating a Voice Training workshop Saturday afternoon!!!

**This is an affiliate link so if you end up purchasing a ticket, I will get a lovely commission from the lovely ladies of She Podcasts. Thank you!!! 

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Let’s do this podcasting thing together! 
Apply now to the Podcast Envy VIP Circle with me.

I’ve been teasing it FOREVER. Now there is a way for us to connect 1×1 AND for you to become part of an intimate community of podcasting colleagues who all want to make an impact, shift culture and all the while, reap the deep rewards of podcasting (no, I’m not necessarily talking sponsors…) for ourselves.

This is a community we will create TOGETHER. And because of this, the first 5 members to join will receive the Founding Member rate of $29/month.

I will NEVER offer this rate again and it will be yours for as long as you are current.

To request to become a Founding Member, pop over here to apply.

I’ve got 20 questions for you and if I think the membership is right for you, I’ll send an invitation to join.

Yes, but, Andrea, what EXACTLY will we be doing?

I don’t know!

Okay… well I do have a pretty good idea but the truth is I don’t want to create something you don’t need just because I think it’s a good idea.

I also want us to be conscientious and intentional with our digital media, our attention, and our time together. And I have some ideas I think are pretty great!

Curious? Apply right now!

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Interviews or solos? Interviews or solos? Where do you think I fall in that Spectrum? 

Well, this is kind of a trick question because, as you know, I do both interviews and solo episodes and truthfully, that is my answer.

Well, okay, let me qualify that. That is the simple answerdo both interviews and solos for all of the reasons mentioned in the referenced articles.

I mean Robert Crandall from article one is not wrong when he says that: 

With a solo show, the listener gets to know you, like you, and trust you. 

There’s a connection and that is so so so important because if people don’t know, like, and trust you, they’re not going to keep listening to your show. No matter WHO you have as an interview guest. And if you are trying to build thought leadership or share your expertise, then yes, we want to hear from YOU.

In fact, most of my clients who come to me for launch consulting or for show editing or to produce their show, especially if they’re a solopreneur or a one-person business, they are assuming that they’re going to do an interview show.

And sometimes they have very good clear reasons for doing this like they want to use their show to network with other people in their field that they wouldn’t necessarily always have access to.

Or the mere fact that they have a small following, a small audience, to begin with and having guests on your show can (not always but if done right) be a way to grow your listening audience IF the fans and followers of your guests are likely to be in your target listening audience and IF those guests are likely to share their show with their audiences.

Also interviews are a great way for you, the host, to follow your curiosity and learn and ask good questions and  get new insights and fresh perspectives, especially when as Richard Davies from article two mentions, you interview people who have differing perspectives from you. 

A podcaster who is really great at doing this is Julie Neale from Mother’s Quest! 

Check out my interview with Julie on Podcast Envy episode 036.

So yes, I am a big fan of the interview and there are a lot of reasons to do it. However, I usually encourage those podcast clients who want to do interviews to also consider sprinkling in some solo shows.

And that is for all of the reasons laid out in this article and more: building thought leadership, building that one-to-one connection, etc.  I will tell you that most of my listeners especially for The Creative Impostor have told me that while they love the interviews so much what they really come back for are the solo episodes where it’s just me talking directly to them. That’s what keeps them listening. Those are my core devoted fans and audience.

One great example of a client who took me up on my advice to add solo episodes into the interview mix is Sarah Buino from Conversations with a Wounded Healer. 

Check out my interview with Sarah BEFORE her podcasting days on The Creative Impostor episode 055.

But in article two –  Most Hosts Shouldn’t Go Solo with Richard Davies, I don’t agree with the title, but I do think that…

Purely solo shows can be really challenging to create to keep fresh, to do well, to grow listeners, and  to keep going unless you just really really really love the sound of your own voice

It eventually starts to feel very much the same, like one-dimensional one-sided conversation. Richard also mentions the element of spontaneity of these genuine moments and surprises that can happen when not everything is scripted. 


Podcast Envy Pro Tip!

When I book interviews, I do send my guests an idea of what topics we might touch on and what questions I might ask, but I do not send them every question in advance. There needs to be an element of surprise and moments that are unplanned and I need to have the flexibility to completely go off script.


Sometimes with solo shows they can be hard to pull off. If you are a host who is scripting everything and then you read off a piece of paper, then you’re going to need to do some work on your presentation, possibly acting coaching, marking up your script, using intentional vocal variety. You’re also going to need to think about the way that somebody is listening to your voice.

So the easy answer to this dilemma of interview vs solo is obviously: BOTH!

The more complex answer that I want you to take some time to consider is: 

Why interviews or solos? Is that all there is for podcasting? What else is possible?

Audio is a super flexible medium and I think that we have very much limited ourselves in the podcasting space by putting ourselves into two camps hosted solo hosted or co-hosted shows and interviews.

And yes, I am fully aware as I say this that I am also one of those podcasters who does those two things, but believe me when I tell you that I have been thinking and thinking and thinking about how I would like to do things differently something that I could use the medium of audio to do or convey or express in a more inventive, more creative, more adaptive way, and I don’t have the answer yet.

But what I do have are some examples of shows that I think are exploring the edges of what is possible in interesting ways. And of course, this is not an exhaustive list. 

If you have an example of a show that you think is going beyond the simple solo or co-hosted show or interview format who’s doing something interesting with the way their show is presented with the actual format of the show, I would love for you to share that with me.  

You can actually share that show with me on Instagram either through a DM or you can post it or you can post it and tag me @andreaklunder.

Or you can tell me about it record a voice memo in your phone or, you are a podcaster, right? So record a little snippet of audio and send me a decent quality MP3 file to andrea [at] thecreativeimpostor.com.

Resources & podcasts mentioned

Mother’s Quest

Conversations with a Wounded Healer

Key Change: Creating Opera for All Voices

Flash Forward

Project Woo Woo

Everyone Else

Watching With…

By the Book

Congressional Dish

The Embody Podcast

10 Things That Scare Me

My episode of The Creative Impostor inspired by this show

Sarah’s episode of Conversations with a Wounded Healer inspired by this show

Creative Processing

 

Connect with me

  1. Send me an email and let me know about a podcast you LOVE doing something interesting with their format beyond solos & interviews. So no like formal survey or anything. Just email me. You can write it or record a voice memo on your phone and attach it to the email.
  2. DM me on Insta or post a clip/show that you think is doing something creative with their format and tag me @andreaklunder
  3. Join my Facebook Community where we create social support for content creators with inspiring prompts, opportunities for you to share your work, and more.

My favorite hashtags #thecreativeimpostor #podcastenvy #podcastboss

Email or Voice (send me a question to answer on the show!)
Facebook Group The Creative Impostor
Facebook Page @andreaklunder.creative
Instagram: @andreaklunder

Oh HEY! I’m on LinkedIn… dropping pro podcasting tips, insights, and stories. Connect with me there and let me know you’re a Podcast Envy listener.

CI079: Admitting I’m scared


Every time I lose my voice to laryngitis, I have a fear that it won’t come back.

~Andrea Klunder

What are you scared of?

Having a major health crisis changes the lens on how you perceive things. Long-time fears can resurface with a vengeance and new ones you never considered before can materialize.

I was inspired to do this episode and post by Sarah Buino of the Conversations with a Wounded Healer podcast (which my team edits), who was inspired by the WNYC Studios podcast 10 Things That Scare Me.

Read on for more…

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Selfie of Andrea Klunder with wide eyes inside a local bookstore

An Invitation for YOU

Apply to the Podcast Envy VIP Circle

Are you podcasting? (I know SOME of this community is doing it!)
Apply now to the Podcast Envy VIP Circle with me

I’ve been teasing it FOREVER. Now there is a way for us to connect 1×1 AND for you to become part of an intimate community of podcasting colleagues who all want to make an impact, shift culture and all the while, reap the deep rewards of podcasting (no, I’m not necessarily talking sponsors…) for ourselves.

This is a community we will create TOGETHER. And because of this, the first 5 members to join will receive the Founding Member rate of $29/month.

I will NEVER offer this rate again and it will be yours for as long as you are current.

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If you’ve been following me this year, you know that I had a mastectomy and DIEP flap reconstruction of my left breast using abdominal tissue in March 2019 and then this month, a revision to those scars. This was in response to a diagnosis of stage 0 DCIS (pre-cancer) and there is nothing like the “c-word” to bring up FEAR.

When I heard Sarah’s short episode during editing, it hit me in a deep place and then I checked out 10 Things That Scare Me and it’s so simple and brilliant. 

Naming the things that scare. It’s powerful.

Here’s my list (which is very different than what it would have been last year.)

1)    Big cats (tigers, lions, pumas, jaguars, panthers, etc)

2)    Ruining the planet

3)    Cancer

4)    Health insurance (or losing health insurance or inadequate coverage)

5)    That my body will never feel right again post-surgery

6)    Hurting someone deeply without meaning to, without realizing it, or without even remembering what I did (or didn’t do)

7)    Putting things off until never… working and working and working and realizing at the end of my life that none of it matters and that I put off the important things because I was too busy working

8)   Running out of money

9)   Getting old, becoming feeble, being dependent on others, and beging completely alone

10)  Losing my voice (and/or my hearing) — The episode I reference in relation to this one is from Invisibilia: The Prayer.

To hear more stories about the above list, for sure listen to the full episode.


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CI078: Self-Care Impostor


It’s amazing to me how very hard we are on ourselves whenever healing is involved. Whether one has had a hysterectomy, a fibroid removed, given birth, or “just” had a broken bone set, we expect expediency… capitalism demands it… And consumerism has co-opted self-care to mean things like manicures, cupcake breaks, and long weekends.

~Lisa Widder

I AM A SELF-CARE IMPOSTOR!!!

Before I was a podcaster, I was a yoga teacher, and then a Thai Bodywork practitioner, and then a meditation teacher.

I owned a yoga studio for 5 years,

I led a yoga teacher training.

I lead musical mantra sessions, I blend essential oils, I practice tarot.

In fact MANY episodes of The Creative Impostor are about self-care — whether it’s me spouting off ideas and droplets of wisdom and practices or my guests sharing insights into different ways they take care of their creative selves and/or their clients…

I confess I feel like I was wrong about self-care.

I had never REALLY put it to the test.

Read on for more…

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The intersection of art, philosophy, spirituality, and personal growth  (all my favorite things!  

Isabelle has invited me to TAKE OVER her group the week of July 1st!!!! 

’ll be sharing some specific insight into my own creative process and this will be leading up to a live storytelling event I’m part of in Chicago July 10th, called Pour One Out.

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I mean sure, I had my appendix out several years ago,  I went to India and changed my diet and yoga practice after consulting with an Ayurvedic doctor, I dug myself out what was probably pretty mild depression after closing my yoga business, but I did not know the parameters or import of self-care til now.

And here I am. 13 weeks post surgery. 23 weeks post stage 0 pre-cancer in my breast and I am SO TIRED OF TALKING ABOUT THIS and thinking about this but I am IN IT. Deep. 

Recovery does not happen in a 4-6 week window.

It is a long slow painful slog through the murk of my psyche, the breakdown and piecing back together of my body and well — who knows what else lies ahead b/c I can’t yet see the way out.

I want to share this email from a friend, colleague and community member… Lisa says,

“It’s amazing to me how very hard we are on ourselves whenever healing is involved. Whether one has had a hysterectomy, a fibroid removed, given birth, or “just” had a broken bone set, we expect expediency. I think capitalism demands it, has always demanded it. And consumerism has co-opted self-care to mean things like manicures, cupcake breaks, and long weekends. All of those are important (I love cupcake breaks!) but the heavy lifting is the stuff that you’re doing – the therapy, the massages, the PT. And, oh boy, does that stuff take time before the cumulative effects become apparent!” 

If you follow me on Instagram or you’re in The Creative Impostor FB group you may know some of what I’ve been going through — like just the surface.

I’m doing physical therapy 4x per week for my arm and shoulder which I can’t extend above my head and hurts constantly since surgery. I’m seeing a massage therapist weekly for the same — and overall energetic rebalancing. I’ve received Reiki from friends. I just started working with a psychotherapist using this cool technique I stumbled upon called brainspotting.  And it’s all good and helpful but this self-care thing is becoming like a full-time job and I don’t always have the faith that I will ultimately be as good as I was before (let alone better.)

I find myself thinking of what has been lost, what has been taken away.

Like sure I have the new boob made out of my belly fat and in everyday settings you probably wouldn’t even notice anything different through my clothes. But it FEELS different (in fact I can’t really feel it at all – so it’ like this thing just stuck on my body that sometimes feels like it doesn’t belong.)

Really bizarre side note, go listen to an episode of one of my favorite podcasts Flash Forward with Rose Evelth. It’s called BODIES: Switcheroo — it’s about a potential future in which we have the ability to swap bodies with someone else (I know intense) and one of the things they touch on is how recipients of organ transplants often have a bizarre relationship to the newly transplanted organ.

Anyway it made me think of how I feel about the new breast EVEN THOUGH it came from my own body. It’s like my brain knows that’s not a breast and so it shouldn’t be there.

Also…

I find myself wanting to sleep ALL THE TIME. And then not feeling well rested when I do, but definitely falling behind in my work b/c of it (clients — close your ears!) This leads to me pushing myself to stay up until 2 or 3am to meet deadlines, because I was too foggy headed during the day or because I was in 3 back-to-back therapy appointments and then exhausted afterward. 

And I KNOW That consistent sleep is like the #1 most important thing I should be prioritizing. 

But like… I also have to work. Don’t I?!

And then back to this thing I began exploring in therapy of feeling like things are being taken away… I also just had a major double whammy disappointment professionally.

This year I applied to a program being offered by Google Podcasts and PRX (public radio exchange) — it was our second time applying for funding and mentorship — along with students from my high school mentoring program and podcast Power Your Story — we have a big vision for where we’d like to take that show as a resource for young people in the disability community and we can’t do it within our current budget and format constraints. INCREDIBLY we made it to the finals — From over 2000 applications, they selected 24 teams to interview (including us) and then they selected 6 slots.

Believe me when I tell you that this is THE ONLY THING I have cared about in my career since the surgery (current clients close your ears again)…. And we just found out we didn’t get it.

And then a week later my whole existing Power Your Story program which was supposed to pick up again in July just got shut down. Completely. For frustrating reasons (lack of admin support, data entry problems, issues with recruiting and logistics, my own failure to push things through, budget constraints…I don’t even really know.) And I don’t know whether we’ll be back in the fall. Or maybe it’s just done.

I felt the wind knocked out of me and then kicked when I was down. 

I know some will say and have said that this is a blessing in disguise because I need the time and space to heal — to take care of me.

And I am practicing letting go — shifting my focus from what is gone to what will come because where there is a vacuum...

But alas…

I feel frustrated by my body’s apparent resistance to resetting itself and moving on.

I want to trust my intuition more, to take care of my body better, to listen to the messages I’m getting but they’re so fuzzy.

I want to be patient – (do I?) but I also just want my life back!

And I certainly don’t want my creative work, my career, my business to fall apart in the meantime.

Not long ago I received this awesome voice message from another friend, colleague and community member, Jennie, which I’ve included in the episode.

I’m sharing that (and Lisa’s email) with you because

  1. whether you realize it or not, you are part of such an awesome community in The Creative Impostor with really smart, creative, giving people
  2. I need to hear these things over and over and over — that I’m not alone in this, that other people get it, and there’s a way through
  3. Because feedback on teh work I’m doing, on the show, on our guests is SO IMPORTANT! Sometimes when I get busy with client work, I let my own shows and content slide to the back burner and it’s easy to feel like it really doesn’t matter whether I pick them back up again — or even when I am creating, I’m not totally sure where this is all landing. But messages like Jennie’s helps me to know I’m on the right track and keep me going.


Here are some ways I’d love to connect

  1. Send me an email and let me know what you have created from your own trauma or health journey. So no like formal survey or anything. Just email me. You can write it or record a voice memo on your phone and attach it to the email.
  2. Join my Facebook Community where we create social support for content creators with inspiring prompts, opportunities for you to share your work, talk about money and more.

My favorite hashtags #thecreativeimpostor #creativewomen

Email or Voice
Facebook Group The Creative Impostor
Facebook Page @andreaklunder.creative
Instagram: @andreaklunder

Oh HEY! I’m on LinkedIn now… dropping pro podcasting tips, insights, and stories. Connect with me there and let me know you’re a Creative Impostor listener.